Manchester and District Orienteering Club
Twin Peak 2008
Two Regional Events in Macclesfield Forest
Saturday / Sunday May 10th/11th
Thank you to all of you who took part this weekend. We are sure that everybody will agree that the forest was probably at its best with the bluebells at their peak. In the sunshine it turned the walk from the car park to assembly into a pleasure, although we did notice a much higher demand for the minibus shuttle on Sunday. Was it the heat or was it a case of saving your legs for the climb to the top of the forest?
I think you will all agree that the Forest Office makes a superb assembly area. It provides good accommodation in poor weather and, as we demonstrated this weekend, a very pleasant setting in good weather. We must thank United Utilities for being such generous hosts in allowing us both access to Macclesfield Forest and the Forest Office facilities. Particular thanks to Trevor Greenhalgh, the Woodland Officer, for being such a welcoming host. Thank you also to Mr White for providing the additional car parking field. Unfortunately there simply is not enough space at the Forest Office to accommodate everybody for an event of this size.
Twin Peak was last in Macclesfield Forest three years ago; we had just taken up the sport and it was our first badge event. Only now can we appreciate the amount of time and volunteer effort that is required to stage an event like this. Thank you to all the MDOC team who have provided help, support and advice over the last six months and then gave so freely of their time over the weekend to make the event happen. Our final thanks go to the planners and controllers who put in many long hours in the forest and are hopefully now enjoying a well earned rest.
Prizes and Certificates
Twin Peak prizes were awarded to the winners of all Junior classes and Senior Long classes. If you didn't get yours, please contact us and we will arrange to get it to you.
Certificates are available to the first three in every class. Let us have your address if you want one.
We have two items of lost property - a Navy cagoule, and a Mobile phone.
If you entered, were unable to run and would like your map, please let us know and we will send it on.
The best score was from an SN team with 23 correct answers. Other high scores from Brian and Catherine Odell, Chris Boycott, Colin Smith and the Ockenden family.
To claim any of the above, or for other queries, please email or ring Jane & David McCann on 0161-483-2061 (before 9 p.m.)
It took us two years to recover from planning Errwood and we suspect it will take us the same to recover from planning Macc Forest. However the work involved was offset by the fun and experience we gained planning, being a part of such an experienced team and then seing so many happy orienteers a large number of whom were very complimentary - thank you all comments were much appreciated. The dry forest, sunshine and complete lack of foresters and diggers in the forest made for a very relaxing weekend for us!
We had some fun times with Brian - he would phone us from the forest.... "Brian... Brian Shaw here......." and then he would offer up valuable advice and comments and after a few days of this we would say to each other........"it's double O 7 on the line again". As Brian says it's always good to learn something from these experiences, after Errwood we learnt that it is not a good idea to do any arm chair planning before running over the whole area highlighting all the best most runnable and interesting parts with a highlighter pen and then ensure you take the courses through those bits. This year we learn the importance of concentrating on providing good courses in terms of the shape of the courses, the route choices Macc Forest provides, the different directions for different courses on the day and the need to work closely with Phil - day 2 planner to avoid any duplication of similar legs. A big thanks to Phil not just for the fun we had on the planning side but also for the brilliant map printing service he provides for MDOC.
Can you believe that a new extraction lane and footpath appeared in the area in the five days leading up to the event! Such is Macclesfield Forest 2008 - changeable. However, there are parts, in the north, which are idyllic and steadfast; the downside is that they are "a bit high" and this means climb; judging by the comments that I received, not too high, and well worth the effort - music to the planner's ears. Planning two days on essentially the same area, presents its own set of problems but I think we found a winning formula; and by changing the direction of the courses we managed to avoid undue repetition. There is an amazing variety of terrain and courses were planned to make the most of the opportunity to experience Macclesfield Forest to the full; I trust that you found it challenging and enjoyable. Apologies for taking some of our senior orienteers on a trek up the hill, but the nature of the OOB and the location of the feature rich areas forced certain courses "up"; that said I heard no complaints!
My sincere thanks go to Peter Gorvett for all his helpful suggestions throughout the planning and for bringing a level of precision that I would not otherwise have worked to, and also to the day 1 planners Vicky and Andy Thornton who provided a constant source of solutions, problems and inspiration (in any order). The day 1 controller, Brian Shaw, must also receive considerable plaudits for stepping in while his own day was still playing itself out. Seeing Brian assume the weight of controller for a second consecutive day, with only minutes notice, was awesome and carried through with infectious cheerfulness amid overwhelming fatigue!
Please come again, when it will definitely not be the same as you saw it today, but will continue to stimulate and test your orienteering skills.
It's always a pleasure to work with the MDOC team and particularly with Vicky and Andy Thornton who did their usual very efficient job, and we had some laughs which always helps. I finally met up with Phil the day before the event and as a result of the circumstances we got to know each other pretty quickly and again it worked out really well.
Macclesfield is more of a physical than a technical challenge especially in the south of the area so planning interesting short courses in the south is quite difficult and I thought Vicky and Andy did an excellent job and provided some challenging courses. The forest was at its best and the glorious weather added to the enjoyment.
I believe that everyone should try and take away something new from every event, planner, organiser, controller and competitor alike and perhaps one of the things I would offer is that we spend more time on the courses and less time agonising over the map. I don't think I heard one comment on either day about the map which I guess shows that competitors don't pick up on the small inconsistencies which we as planners and controllers do when we, very correctly, scrutinise every control site for fairness.
I guess the other thing which we have to constantly remind ourselves is that a large proportion of orienteers are in the older age classes and their courses should get at least as much attention as the longer courses which are sadly under subscribed these days. As one lady succinctly put it "we don't mind if it's steep as long as we have to think at the same time". Obviously the constraints on parking venues at Macc Forest make it difficult for the shorter courses to get into the north but I wouldn't mind betting that most of the older folk would be prepared to walk 2 or 3km to the start to get into the best bits of forest. The junior courses would be a different matter of course and this means two starts and I as an Organiser would be the first to groan! Ah well that's orienteering for you.
Congratulations to MDOC for putting on yet another successful and very enjoyable weekend of orienteering. The turn out may have been a little disappointing but sometimes good weather can work against you; the first really warm weekend of the year would have persuaded many to stay at home in the garden.
The out-of-bounds restrictions make if quite difficult to plan two long courses that are different on each day. The planners largely achieved this, but most of you will have inevitably covered similar ground for parts of both days for sections of your courses, especially around the crossing points.
It was an unexpected pleasure to check the controls in the northern part of the area. My earlier memories were of rough going, but most of the area is beautiful runnable forest.
It was good to work with the planners, they didn't get fazed by the number of my requests for adjustments.
My apologies for my absence on the day. My mother had a stroke on Saturday, but despite early worries, seems to be recovering steadily. Thanks to Vicky Thornton for her help with control checking and to Brian for covering all the issues on both days.
The string course always appears to be the 'easy option' when people are needed
for organising, but it isn't! - courses still need planning to make it as interesting
as possible for our younger runners, maps need preparing and the course needs setting
up and clearing away. However, on this occasion I have to admit that it was very easy
and I want to say a big thank you to the following people who helped make it a pleasure
Alison Doyle for helping run the course on both days, Vicky Thornton for drawing 2 excellent maps, Rebecca Thornton for producing the certificates, and all the boys for helping set up and running the course each day in between their proper runs and numerous string course runs: Matthew, Tom Mc, Tom F, Alex, James M, James C and John and to Richard for giving my daughter a lift on sunday so I didn't have to leave the event.
. . . . in fact what actually did I do?!!!
Day 1 Class Gold Silver Bronze M21L 91:26 109:43 146:18 M21S 71:55 86:18 115:04 M21V 45:12 54:14 72:19 M35L 115:57 139:09 185:32 M35S 74:19 89:11 118:55 M40L 92:47 111:21 148:28 M40S 59:28 71:22 95:10 M45L 79:34 95:29 127:18 M45S 48:37 58:21 77:48 M50L 83:43 100:27 133:57 M50S 51:25 61:42 82:17 M55L 66:39 79:59 106:39 M55S 49:19 59:11 78:55 M60L 76:05 91:18 121:44 M60S 47:10 56:36 75:28 M65L 76:32 91:51 122:28 M65S 53:55 64:42 86:16 M70L 58:56 70:43 94:18 M70S 47:28 56:58 75:57 M75L 64:52 77:51 103:48 M75S 60:41 72:49 97:06 W21L 86:16 103:31 138:02 W21S 51:31 61:49 82:26 W35L - - - W35S 54:15 65:06 86:48 W40L 73:38 88:22 117:50 W40S 53:01 63:37 84:50 W45L 71:10 85:24 113:52 W45S 50:08 60:10 80:13 W50L 72:52 87:27 116:36 W50S 49:08 58:58 78:38 W55L 72:42 87:15 116:20 W55S 56:59 68:23 91:10 W60L 59:10 71:00 94:40 W60S 47:39 57:11 76:15 W65L 64:16 77:07 102:50 W65S 60:07 72:08 96:11 W70L 63:36 76:19 101:46 W75L 100:58 121:10 161:34 JM1 13:43 16:28 21:58 JM2 17:43 21:16 28:22 JM3 29:58 35:58 47:58 JM4 40:51 49:01 65:22 JM5L 84:53 101:52 135:50 JM5M 61:59 74:23 99:11 JM5S 47:55 57:30 76:40 JW1 21:32 25:51 34:28 JW2 23:06 27:43 36:58 JW3 31:23 37:40 50:14 JW4 52:56 63:31 84:42 JW5L 130:57 157:09 209:32 JW5S 63:45 76:30 102:00
Day 2 Class Gold Silver Bronze M21L 91:16 109:31 146:02 M21S 68:42 82:27 109:56 M21V 42:02 50:27 67:16 M35L 96:22 115:39 154:12 M35S 65:29 78:34 104:46 M40L 94:01 112:50 150:27 M40S 63:53 76:40 102:13 M45L 77:52 93:27 124:36 M45S 47:39 57:11 76:15 M50L 79:30 95:24 127:12 M50S 48:38 58:22 77:50 M55L 66:47 80:09 106:52 M55S 47:53 57:27 76:37 M60L 71:51 86:14 114:58 M60S 37:57 45:33 60:44 M65L 66:53 80:16 107:02 M65S 45:41 54:49 73:05 M70L 60:31 72:37 96:50 M70S 41:24 49:41 66:15 M75L 53:40 64:24 85:52 M75S 49:50 59:48 79:44 W21L 81:12 97:27 129:56 W21S 49:41 59:38 79:30 W35L 73:45 88:30 118:00 W35S 52:52 63:27 84:36 W40L 72:01 86:25 115:14 W40S 51:38 61:57 82:37 W45L 62:26 74:55 99:54 W45S 42:38 51:10 68:13 W50L 69:17 83:09 110:52 W50S 43:56 52:43 70:18 W55L 68:13 81:51 109:09 W55S 46:40 56:00 74:40 W60L 59:44 71:41 95:35 W60S 40:52 49:02 65:23 W65L 53:55 64:42 86:16 W65S 50:03 60:04 80:06 W70L 57:50 69:24 92:32 W75L 94:20 113:12 150:56 JM1 15:20 18:24 24:32 JM2 18:00 21:36 28:48 JM3 36:32 43:51 58:28 JM4 32:00 38:24 51:12 JM5L 75:57 91:09 121:32 JM5M 61:20 73:36 98:08 JM5S 46:30 55:48 74:24 JW1 19:07 22:57 30:36 JW2 23:51 28:37 38:10 JW3 43:10 51:48 69:04 JW4 47:26 56:55 75:54 JW5L 104:42 125:39 167:32 JW5S 60:08 72:10 96:14