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John o’ Goats Charity Event at Lyme

This is our annual version of the Billy Goat head to head race held in the USA. Mass start, miss out some controls of your choice (how many you miss out depends on your age class).

06/01/2024 - Results available.

Sat 06th Jan 2024

Type of event: Local
Type of terrain: Moorland, Parkland, Woodland
Info updated: 08th Jan


Event Report

Organiser's Comments - Alison Doyle

We raised £1,180 in cash plus the gift aid for Cancer Research UK. Thanks for all your generous donations. Thanks to Jim for courses which received many compliments.


Pre Event Info

Our nominated charity this year is Cancer Research UK.

  • Everyone should pre-register using the MDOC Registration System This will guarantee a map is available for you.
  • Online entry closing date 18:00 Friday 5th January

  • Note: Timings have been put back by 30 mins - the Mass Start is now at 11:30

  • Very limited EOD, subject to map availability

  • Please donate to our nominated charity.


There will be a raffle with prizes donated by club members. Takings will be donated to the charity.


Nearest town: Disley, near Stockport

Directions / Parking

The entrance to Lyme is on the A6, between Disley and High Lane (see brown tourist signs). 1 mile from gate to Car Park.

The National Trust have agreed to waive the entrance charge for this event, but request that all NT members get their membership card scanned at the admissions kiosk - please remember to do this!

If people could lift share it would help to ease pressure on the car park and would be greatly appreciated. The overflow car park is already out of use due to wet weather so car parking spaces will be limited.

Registration & Start Times

Register from 10.45 to 11.15. Mass start at 11.30 for the main race.

Course closing time: 13:30.

Course Information

The Race: ‘John o’ Goats’ is MDOC’s version of the head-to-head ‘Billygoat’ races held in the US. In our version, the course you run, and the number of controls you can miss, depends on your age class.

Note: controls can be taken in any order

See the table below to find which course you should compete in and how many controls you should miss. Optimum routes are all within BOF guidelines for the age category but should you wish to run down, please add an 'n/c' comment when you enter. (The Comments box is at the bottom of the main entry page.)

Course Long Medium Short Very Short
Map Scale 1:10000 1:10000 1:7500 1:7500
Total Number of Controls 18 18 18 14
Miss 2 M21, M35 W20, W40, M16, M55 W16, W55, M14, M70 W70, M80
Miss 3 M20, M40, M45 W18, W45, M60 W14, W60, M12 W75, M85
Miss 4 W21, W35, M18, M50 W50, M65 W12, W65, M75 W80, M90

There will also be a Yellow course for young juniors that starts at approx. 11:35 after the main event.

Explanation of colour courses

  • White are very easy with all controls on paths. They are mainly used by 6-10 year olds and family groups.
  • Yellow use simple linear features like paths, walls and streams. They are mainly used by under 12’s and family groups.
  • Orange progress to basic use of the compass and route choice. They are ideal for novice adults or experienced youngsters.
  • Light Green are ideal for improvers as the navigational difficulty begins to increase and uses simple contours and point features.
  • Green are used mostly by experienced under 18’s and adults wanting a short but challenging course with a very hard navigational difficulty.
  • Blue are a longer, more physically demanding course in comparison to the green. The distances are more varied between controls and the course attracts experienced orienteers.
  • Brown & Black are very physically demanding and have a very hard navigational difficulty. They are for experienced orienteers only.
  • Score means visiting as many controls as possible in any order in a specific time, like 45mins.


Refreshment Kiosk in car park.

Toilets and Cafe in the Timber Yard. 5 minutes from car park.

Dogs allowed?

On leads and under control at all times.

Contacts / Officials

Organiser: Alison Doyle

Safety and Risk

A comprehensive risk assessment will have been carried out by the organiser, but participants take part at their own risk and are responsible for their own safety during the event.

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